custom window systems vs pgt

Sandy - Homeowner - from 2021, I did sign a contract with Window World for the wincore 8000 series impact-resistant double hung windows. Window World 4000 Series: $20k Alliance Window Systems. A Marvin dealer tomorrow (because I Matt Risinger), and I'd prefer an aluminum framed window if it's not out of reach based on our southern exposure vinyl experience. Does the warranty cover just the cost of the window so that the labor of replacement is put on the homeowner? FHA actually reached out and they now have a double hung CWS and they are able to install them for $10,750. I got a final bid from AmCraft and that came in at $16,490. Have a question on window quotes, prices, or reviews? Susan - Homeowner - from 2018, Susan, this sounds like a first bid but not their final price. CWS Windows prices are in the mid range of other vinyl and aluminum windows. Any info would help. Violi - Homeowner - from 2020, Violi, you should definitely break the contract to give yourself some time to find out what the fair market price is for your project. Leaning towards using them to install PGT doors and windows, has anyone use home depot for windows installation. This acquisition has helped them to become a near-unmatched leader in the impact window and door industry. Many of the plastisizers that make it more flexible have been replaced by UV inhibitors that make it more brittle. I appreciate the posters who shared their experience. So what brand do you recommend? What are the best hurricane rated impact windows we can buy? All of them are definitely available throughout Florida and offer nice quality vinyl windows at a mid range price. Paradise quoted us out on CWS windows $7800. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Itd products are designed for both new construction and existing homes. I am snowblind reading reviews on line. (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), Hello, we met with an installer and they offered us the CWS 8200 series impact winodws. They pass the same standardized testing chambers under the exact same conditions and carry thee exact same approvals. Trying to work within a tight budget. It's more expensive and some homeowners just can't afford to go that route (in which case I suggest the Custom Window Systems). Which option do you think is better? Im leaning toward Home Depot but need to decide between aluminum or vinyl. $125 more per window for the SLthat's a tough question, I think it's right there on the borderline whether that's worth it or not. All in all, if you like and trust the people doing your installation, I think you are choosing a quality impact window for your Florida home! Wiltrack Construction And Development Group LLC. The other affordable hurricane window that is available throughout Florida is the StormBreaker Plus from Simonton, if you google "StormBreaker Plus Jacksonville Florida", or whatever city you live in, you should be able to quickly and easily find a contractor who carries this brand. Not sure of CWS transferable warranty in standard or an option. Braden - Homeowners - from 2012, The CWS and PGT bids you got don't seem out of line in terms of price, the Gorell price bid is ridiculous - do not go with that ridiculous bid regardless of what they say. I was originally going with PGT's but I feel the New South window is a much better quality window and has the best warranty in the business and for the same price as two of the PGT quotes I got. Also, I'm not a big fan of using PVC windows in the south. Single and Double-Hung impact windows are some of the most popular choices on the market. You have selected two great companies, just goes to prove what hard work and research get you. Since this room is going to be 90 percent window, I really want to make sure we have at least a mid-grade window. If those are equal, I would probably go with the PGT only because they are a bit bigger operation. We live in South Florida so both hurricane protection and energy efficiency are important to us. Tim - Site Editor - from 2019, The CWS 8100 is a single hung vinyl impact window, which seems to offer good quality and value. WinGuard Vinyl, CA 5540, PW 5520, and SGD 5570, EnergyVue, CA 5440, PW 5420, and SGD 5470, 2023 PGT Innovations, All Rights Reserved. Meredith - Homeowner - from 2018, Meredith, I think the CWS and PGT quotes are worth the extra money over the AmCraft. I've spent a lot of time doing research and calling the various companies to get quotes. The second quote is for PGT HR5410 sliders and SH5400 single hung windows (not sure which sliding glass doors this quote includes) for $10,921.00. Windstorm Inspection Program TDI Product Evaluation Index Product Evaluation - Vinyl Fixed Windows Windstorm Inspections Appointed Engineers Building Code Building Products Catastrophe Zone Map Certificate of Compliance (WPI-8) Search Contacts Education FAIR resources Field Offices Forms Product Evaluations Subscriptions Testing Facilities TWIA Staying the vinyl family of products, Simonton Stormbreaker and the PGT impact product are two of the more favorably reviewed products. Looks like NewSouth is good enough for PGT - PGT acquires NewSouth in $92M cash deal. That's right. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, -- Estimated CWS StormStrong Costs: $9,00 to $1,200 installed -- CWS Estimate: $47.4K (using CWS patio sliders) Yes, at the end of the visit, Joe DID ask for a commitment, but that is what any sales person would do. Dane - Site Editor - from 2022, I just got done with a 5-hour spiel from a sales rep for FHIA (Florida Home Improvement Associates, Inc.) who made a big to-do about their being the home improvement contractor of choice for Sam's Club and BJ's. It's a coin flip from my perspective, I would need to see more specifics in the quotes to tip it one way of the other. Do you feel these windows are a good quality product and is the price estimate fair? The $11,597 for 11 windows is what I would expect for the CWS 8100 series, but it sounds like they really raked you over the coals to even get to that price. Yes, they have a lifetime warranty but we have to pay labor every time one is replaced. Michael - Homeowner - from 2018, Michael, I would be wary about painting vinyl, it can void the warranty in some cases. Thank you in advance for your help! I have looked over the companies and the models you have reviewed and recommended, but unfortunately for me all your recommendation are for those residing in the northeast. Never heard of the others and nothing about them looks impressive from their website and PGT has a pretty good history for products and customer service. We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. Is this a quality window, or is it a low-grade category window? That doesn't mean that you can't try and shave off some of the cost of the PGT bid though. If you don't need impact windows, go with a mid range or premium vinyl series. Quote is $9,676. We used the ogee grid on the front of the house to give it a colonial look which has single hung windows. Aria Series | 600 Series Tim - Site Editor - from 2016, Do you have any suggestions on which brands to look at for our cold Michigan winters? The company that bid it out had two options, either the WinGuard from PGT or the Wind Pact Plus from Custom Window Systems. It is a lifetime warranty that covers everything including screens. For very cost-conscious customers I would suggest the Silverline 9500 with several upgrades to make it code compliant. Thanks very much. Fixed windows offer more glass area than fixed casement windows. The quotes are for six 73 x 52 windows (in three pairs across the front of our home). Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, -- Estimated CWS 600 Costs: $650 to $800 installed -- Miami-Dade approved. I get that the 5500 series is a coastal impact window. PGT 5500 new winguard vinyl series which are triple pane, laminated, and insulated with lowE coating. I'm not a window expert and don't have a dog in this but I think that most windows are tested for water penetration up to about winds of 60mph. PGT BUT from a window dealer not a box store. We are being told the PGT window is a better window, that the vinyl will not discolor and that the slider and locking mechanism are better quality. I am planning on going with non-impact windows, and after getting 11 quotes (don't believe anybody who tells you to get only 2 or 3: this does NOT apply to Florida. We are in Tampa and looking at replacing our windows with impact hurricane windows. We carry a full line of impact windows and all types of hurricane glass from custom doors and sliding glass doors as well as custom windows, picture and architectural. Stephanie - Homeowner - from 2022, Stephanie, that is disturbing. This is also for the replacement of one cast windowsill inside and out. Damien - Homeowner - from 2016, Damien, 11 quotes, wow, I am impressed you had the fortitude to sit through all of that. One is proposing Custom Window Systems 8000 series for about 5.5k for 9 windows, and the other would install softlite Imperial LS for 6.7k. A service charge from the dealer to swap something out as large as a sliding glass door panel would be normal. I have not heard of many issues with CWS windows. Assuming the installation quality is equal, I'd go with the less expensive option. How does the CWS compare, and is the softlite worth the extra 20% all other things being equal? Dane - Site Editor - from 2021, Hi, We are looking to replace large sliers (8 and 9) and windows in our beach front condo in St Augustine FL. $10,175.00 PGT 5400 EnergyVue You guys are making me nervous! Both companies make lots of window series. Established in 1980 and headquartered in Nokomis, Florida, PGT Custom Windows + Doors is a manufacturer and distributor of building materials. All the windows with exception of one small bath window are considered oversized. I like that the window comes in a number of interior colors that you can choose from and the performance data on the window is quite solid. I don't know anything about CWS and was hoping someone could advise me on what is the best option and what the differences would be in addition to the cost. PGT has no regard for small customers. I reside in North Florida and most of your recommendation are not applicable to me. The glass area difference will be slight, but that can make a difference in how much light comes through. Thank you. Call up a bunch of companies and tell them the opening size and see if they can give you a ballpark quote -- they will probably want to come out to give you a formal bid, which is great. Total price quote is $48K. I am having a hard time finding any solid review on CWS non-impact windows. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Dane, I live in an association that requires replacement windows be the same color as the original single pane bronze aluminum. I'd never run a one legger, especially in the highly competitive window business. 10 of the windows are in block/stucco and 2 are in a wood frame. One big issue with patio doors is whether the door has to be custom made for the order. I am concerned about the adhesion and life of the paint on the vinyl. :) Thank you again! Dane - Site Editor - from 2018, Hi, we recently got bids for CWS and PGT for three sets of Hurricane Non-Impact windows. However, they are tremendously difficult to open and close, requiring two hands to pull on the handle. I am also of the mindset to pay for quality. Some SHs are now really well made and can achieve performance data that far exceeds double hungs (because you have less moving parts and less places for air to enter etc.) So even though the CWS Aria is their entry-level window, you thinks it's a decent product? (assumes medium window and normal installation) *, Hi! So if someone has Simonton windows installed, what will be the percentage of the replacement cost covered by the warranty in 10 years? If you wanted a third option, I'd look for a local rep from them. Thank you. I originally thought the contractors workers damaged these windows on install because I couldn't believe that many windows would fail (my mom has these same windows and hasn't had one failure) but now that the replacements that were installed by the window dealer are failing I'm starting to think these windows are junk. Dane - Site Editor - from 2021, -- Estimated CWS Patio Door Price: $1,600 to $2,750 installed -- If it were me, I would turn to the quality of the installers as the deciding factor. If so, that price isn't too bad, but it doesn't strike me as super competitive, at least at first glance. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016, I have been researching hurricane impact windows and have become thoroughly confused. He says that CWS does not have this perimeter trim thus showing more glass. Poor Customer Service all around, you expect when you spend that kind of. Thanks again Dane and greatly appreciate getting your feedback! One 62 x 36 and CWS is coming in at nearly $9,000 less than PGT!!! I wish I had some sort of remedy, but I really don't. Thanks for your help and I hope you have a great night!!!! 11 vinyl impact windows in all. The company who is doing the project has tried several "possible solutions", none of which has worked. Quote was for 15 slider windows with prairie grid. Kind Regards, Your advice and help is appreciated. We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. Can you give me some basic insight into these two window manufacturers? I have looked at PGT and CWS, but it seems that all extruded vinyl for the frames is white in color, but can be painted on the exterior facing surface. PGT is the nation's leading manufacturer and supplier of residential impact-resistant windows and doors. It's so hard to trust what's truth from fiction with this industry. AmCraft isn't what I would consider a very good brand and I would be wary about going with them. What I'm really trying to find out is if there are any significant differences in their single hung vinyl wind impact windows between the two companies. When I had companies out to quote, I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction. I trust the contractor doing the installation. Also we have a home in sw florida and are considering building a home there and would like a product for that area as well but must be hurricane rated. Single hung windows used to be the red headed stepchild of windowshowever that has changed. Thank you. Any advantages/disadvantages between the two? The Simonton has the best warranty but Im more concerned about the quality of the product and appearance and not the warranty (since all three have a good warranty). I think you need a couple more quotes to compare it to. If you get the "premium" vinyl window from either of these companies, you will be getting a very good windowcertainly one that I would have in my own home. The first three make both impact and non impact windows that should serve your purposes. I think the Simonton VantagePointe window is pretty good, but I would see how much you can get the CWS dealer to come down on his price and see if you can't get it to closer to 10K. Comparable to other quality impact windows out there such as the PGT WinGuard, Soft-Lite Armor Impact series, and the Simonton StormBreaker Plus. MI on the other hand has a reputation as a low quality manufacturer and not a brand I would put in my own home. Not all will have dealers in your zip code, but a google search for "Sunrise windows in [your city, state]" (as an example) should bring up local companies who carry the brand. Get these 3 bids and see how they compare. New construction window selection - need help! Simonton: StormBreaker Plus. I am SO GLAD I got all those quotes) I narrowed it down to 2. Marie - Homeowner - from 2016, Marie, the 8200 is quite a nice impact window, assuming you like how the window looks. What are your thoughts? Atrium Windows and Doors. CGI Windows and Doors 3. Assuming the company doing the install is professional and offers quality services, you should be well served with either one of these products. Of course, if there was a big price difference between the two, I think you'd certainly have to take that into consideration. money with a reputable installer and Manufacturer you get both of them working hand in hand to get the client satisfied. 3 - 36 x 60 Picture Back of Home Remodel: Patio and Window Design, Adding small windows to sides of fireplace. We did a window job together several years ago. Bob - Homeowner - from 2020, Bob, I have never really heard of ESW, so I can't comment on them. Entire home needs new windows. If you have any questions or if youd like me to recommend my local window distributor, dont hesitate to reach out to us. Andy - Homeowner - from 2021, Andy, the CWS 8200 series impact window is quite good. Here is a summary of how the competitors of PGT Custom Windows + Doors compare to one another: Ply Gem Holdings has the most employees (9,471). Home Depot subcontracts instllersinstallers so there is a double layer of mark ups. Again, thanks for your insight. A single-hung window will only have one operational sash, while a Double-Hung window will have two. Joe - Homeowner - from 2016, Joe, the PGT Winguard vinyl window is quite a good window, however its tough to say whether the quote is fair or not. We manufacture Earthwise windows & doors- the only vinyl impact windows & doors manufactured in FL backed by the Good Housekeeping Seal. If they refuse, I think you still have a fair price. The estimate from Zager (CWS bid) is approx. Dane - Site Editor - from 2022, Hi Dane I'm looking at CWS.CC Windgaurd plus 8000 series. If you want any further information we did boatloads of research on all the impact Windows. Project is ongoing as I write. What's your vote? Shar - Homeowner - from 2020, Shar, do I search for "CWS windows in your city and state" and see if any local dealers come up. Thank you! Tim - Site Editor, -- Estimated CWS Windpact Costs: $700 to $1,000 installed -- (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), I have a quote for15 impact window fromCustom Window Systems using the Solar Max with Neat Technology. Dane - Site Editor - from 2021, Tim, we received an estimate for CWS 6100 Series windows for $6340. He and I go back nearly 50 years. My CWS quote was DOUBLE my PGT quote, so you need another quote directly from a local dealer/installer. Custom Windows Window Treatment Services Window Repair Fireplace Contractors Painters Paint & Wall Covering Dealers Door Contractors Glass & Shower Door Contractors Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers Landscape Contractors Landscape Construction Land Clearing Garden & Landscape Supplies Deck & Patio Builders Deck Repair Patio Design One downside to the CWS is no double hung because it's more difficult to make them hurricane code complaint. That is for labor, materials, permits and tax. We have a lot of openings (20- some of which are very large) so we knew this would be an expensive project. Jeromy, that price is much more in line with what I was thinking. Patio Door Reviews | StormStrong Series My bad cpartist I was thinking of CGI not CWS. Dane - Site Editor - from 2017, Hi. One story with 19 single hung windows, two upper moon shaped skylight windows (one over double front door entry and the other over the 3 panel sliding glass doors in livingroom) and two sliding glass doors (a double sliding glass door and oversized 3 panel sliding glass door) & a custom size cabana door with glass insert. I would definitely consider this this options for my home (if I required impact windows or doors) CGI. 3 panels 143 x 80 for $6400. PGT Industries 8. Ron - Homeowner - from 2020, Hi Ron, my top picks for storm windows and doors include the Sunrise Coastal series, Soft-Lite Barcelona Impact Series, Soft-Lite Armor Impact Series, PGT WinGuard series, Stanek UltraExtreme series, CWS Windpact series, and the Simonton Stormbreaker series. Dane - Site Editor - from 2016. We had 21 CWS 8100 Series windows installed in 2018. Hello Dane, thanks for the response. seems like they use PGT windows. If your In Central Florida Orlando & Tampa Offices. I am not sure if I should trust this claim. I would get a couple more bids from local companies to see how they compare with your current bid. Once you do that, then I think you'll have the information you need to make your decision. It's the company's entry level vinyl window and not the model I would go with from CWS. by FLhomeowner Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:19 pm. Fit and finish, performance, customer service is all on the lower end of the scale. PGT allows you to change the frame colour, configuration, grid style and glass tint of each pre-set design. Does anyone have an idea about the price difference between PGT Winguard Aluminum windows and Marvin or Anderson impact windows? Lots of them do, although I'm not sure about the bigger home improvement places like Lowes or HD. Tim - Site Editor, Hi Dane, this company offer lifetime guarantee however it is a way of making money. I got a quote from CWS today on 18 windows for $22,640. I would also monitor the work and be hands on, as much as possible the crews work better when they know. CWS is owned by PGT I do believe for a couple of years now, they just operate under the original name. Also Marvin does not make an aluminum framed window. (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), Tim, I have a quote on the Coastal version of the Simonton 6100 series. Laurie - Homeowner - from 2018, Laurie, Both CWS and Simonton have relatively strong reputations in the industry. Thank You. The Simonton is actually not a bad window, it's a decent middle of the road vinyl window, although I'm always very wary about the installation you might be getting from the subs through HD. If you are considering PGT's - READ the warranty. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016. I saw many positive reviews on other sites. And, we don't want to continue replacing window after window for who knows how long. Also, Window World gives a limited lifetime warranty. I think it offers better long term value over the first bid. Ultimately, I want black/bronze exterior and white interior. Meredith - Homeowner - from 2018, Meredith, I like all three bids and windows you have and good work on getting the bids as low as you can get. Dane - Site Editor - from 2017, Hi Tim. I was going to contract with a local Diamond rated PGT Dealer (Weather Tite) and then Paradise Exteriors offered to drop their estimate for the Soft-Lits to almost the same amount. We offer impact windows and hurricane doors, along with non-impact options, with many benefits. 8 all those windows are high performance glass package with Solar Zone elite. If I think of anything else, I will be sure to follow up with an email. We live in Tampa and came down to PGF and Simonton. I noticed that many people had asked about those windows in 2016 and was wondering if you have any better feel for the product? The 8100, 8200 and 8400 (available series or model numbers) can be ordered in a standard white, adobe or boronze, as well as an upgraded veneer color options that include natural cherry, anodized, golden oak, bronze, black cherry and medium maple. Quote was for $14000 and this was for full installation of windows and any additional material needed to complete the job. So I think you have to good options, so kudos to you for that! 1 - 52 x 62 In terms of hurricane rated windows in Florida, I would suggest looking at Custom Window Systems, PGT and Simonton. Quote was for 15 slider windows with prairie grid. homosexuality in ancient greece google scholar (I am only looking at non-impact). Take a look at our recommended brands and do a simple google search to see what is available in your area. Perhaps Lowes' or Home Depot? Post I know that the Softlite are among the best vinyl windows. PGT has a good reputation, perhaps a bit above CWS. 1295 Followers 413 Following 15 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Abdou A. PGT sliding glass doors cost 2000 to 3300 for sizes between 71x78 and 70x94 inches and up to 9700 for doors 144x80 inches in size. I live outside the HVHZ in the Orlando Area but Hurricane Charley in 2004 was a Cat3 that caused major damage. We fell in love with the product claims, the low heat transfer and easy operation. It appears that it's simply a financing program so that wouldn't help with the overall cost (although certainly it would help alleviate that initial cost payment). Vinyl Impact Windows are impervious to salt and the salt-air corrosive enviroment of Florida. "I just got quotes on windows from Paradise, Window Wall and PGT from Home Depot.". In terms of quality windows on a budget, I think you are on the right track! We need 15 windows in all -- a combination of picture, casement and double hung windows. The installers concur that they are difficult to open and close. It sounds like the opening is probably not standard so this is probably the reason (one of them certainly) for the high cost. Would these windows be considered entry-level windows/ I would get a few more bids to see how they compare. I only looked as far as some online reviews and saw nothing to like about them. Would love any recommendations. Ian - Contractor in Florida - from 2012, We're looking at Custom Window Systems for our hurricane windows, but there isn't much out there on the company. I included the measurements and location of the windows on the yellow sheet attached above. I'm in FL. We have a quote using CWS Aria horizontal sliders, MI 3540 single hung windows, and MI 1615 sliding doors for $9571.50. The 4 to 6 months from CWS is also a real problem. Our Eco Windows and Doors dealers can help you find the best products to improve your home and lifestyle. Personally I would recommend PGT especially if you can buy them from a diamond dealer that can provide you the crystal care warranty. CWS Windows Cost Quote: $11,597 CWS is a MUCH smaller operation -- Simonton is the largest manufacturer in the business. These would all be considered high quality impact window options. Do you have a suggestion where I could get one? We have 5 openings, 3 of which require two windows each. You could threaten to report them to the BBB if they don't cover the labor cost of the windows you purchased 3 years ago, but I would not pin my hopes on this approach. The CWS Windpact Plus is a strong impact window and one that I would thoroughly consider for my own home (if I needed an impact window and door). Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Thank you Tim! Use that first bid as leverage to see how low that PGT dealer/company is willing to go for your business. 11 windows for $12K. Do you know of vinyl material that is a bronze or even tan color in bulk. Collect your bids and then see if you can negotiate down the price. Cherry or white cabinets in updated kitchen? Windows are : From FHIA Air infiltration rate, U-value, design pressure would be the three data points I would look at Feeling ripped off PGT EnergyVue Series: $675 a window New custom windows and doors are a great investment with many benefits. Also their sealed units frequently fail. In terms of how they compare to Soft-Lite, I would definitely give the nod to Soft-Lite over CWS. Hurricane windows and doors protect against flying debris. Cant make up my mind. My question has to do with double pane windows and they have to be hurricane glass. My second choice is the Simonton 9800 series. (Im assuming Florida because of your mention of CWS and PGT). It sounds like a realtively complex project, so my advise is to go slow and collect as much information and bids as possible. We offer French doors, sliding-glass doors, and cabana doors throughout our collections with impact resistant, energy-efficient, non-impact, and other performance options to meet the needs of your home and family. Thank you. They tend to be either laminated or painted, and both have some drawbacks. It has not been a good experience .product seems ok but the installation has been a diaster!! Thanks. The 8200 windows are 5' and 6' wide. We're in Sarasota and narrowed it down to PGT and NewSouth. The doors are of a very sturdy, nice-looking quality. Send our site editor Dane your questions, and get personalized answers that can save you thousands of dollars on your project! Return to "Ask Our Pro's a Question". Are my windows too large fir casement gear mechanisms etc? The Window Experts Address:101 NE 3 Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL. FAS Windows & Doors!!! PGT makes a PremierVue series that isn't bad, and if that is too high as far as cost, look at their 500 series. Over 30 windows and they did it in about 5 days. The CWS window costs, which were for single hungs, were $7,500 total, the PGT windows price was $800 more. Then with some slight trickery of the pen the quote was changed to $19,936, which is still too much for my budget. CWS Windows Reviews Unfortunately there was no screen left behind. I recently put a ton of single hungs into a home in Florida and the homeowner was very pleased. Tim - Site Editor - from 2020, Dane, Tim, Good afternoon. (I would love to go with your company, but you are more expensive than the CWS -- if you could match them, I would sign with you, etc.)

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